Comments on: Church Life series notes – Study 6 http://www.bethel-laleston.co.uk/2009/07/church-life-series-notes-study-6/ Laleston (nr. Bridgend) Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:34:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: admin http://www.bethel-laleston.co.uk/2009/07/church-life-series-notes-study-6/comment-page-1/#comment-136 admin Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:34:27 +0000 http://www.bethel-laleston.co.uk/?p=301#comment-136 Gary, thanks for your comments. Note, the sermon was about giving and NOT tithing. The higher standard you mentioned was what I thought I had spoken about on the second point. "Malachi does not apply to Christians today" - On the testimony of Jesus and the apostle Paul, I beg to differ (Luke 24:27 and 2 Tim 3:16). HOW it applies is a good question, but that it does should be in no doubt, Jim Gary, thanks for your comments. Note, the sermon was about giving and NOT tithing. The higher standard you mentioned was what I thought I had spoken about on the second point.
“Malachi does not apply to Christians today” – On the testimony of Jesus and the apostle Paul, I beg to differ (Luke 24:27 and 2 Tim 3:16). HOW it applies is a good question, but that it does should be in no doubt,
Jim

]]> By: Gary Arnold http://www.bethel-laleston.co.uk/2009/07/church-life-series-notes-study-6/comment-page-1/#comment-135 Gary Arnold Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:10:57 +0000 http://www.bethel-laleston.co.uk/?p=301#comment-135 You have the principle of tithing wrong. First, God's command to tithe was never on income; it was never on anything that man made or earned. The tithe was always on the miraculous increase from God - from the land and animals (food), never money. Church leaders have essentially diluted the tithe from God’s miracles to man’s achievements. In other words, in the tithing formula, man has replaced God with himself! There is no tithing in the New Testament. The New Testament teaches a higher standard - one of giving from the heart, not under compulsion, and according to our means. Therefore, some should give more than ten percent, and others will give less. There is no percentage guideline or starting point and it is wrong to teach there is. Giving is sacrificial. Abraham's so-called tithe was giving ten percent to one king and the other ninety percent to another king. Abraham never tithed on his own income or wealth. The law of tithing ended at the cross. Malachi refers to the law; thus, Malachi does not apply to Christians today. A study of the history of tithing in the Christian Church will show that tithing, as it is taught today, started around 1870, and was taught at a time the church leaders wanted to raise more money. You have the principle of tithing wrong.

First, God’s command to tithe was never on income; it was never on anything that man made or earned. The tithe was always on the miraculous increase from God – from the land and animals (food), never money.

Church leaders have essentially diluted the tithe from God’s miracles to man’s achievements. In other words, in the tithing formula, man has replaced God with himself!

There is no tithing in the New Testament. The New Testament teaches a higher standard – one of giving from the heart, not under compulsion, and according to our means. Therefore, some should give more than ten percent, and others will give less. There is no percentage guideline or starting point and it is wrong to teach there is. Giving is sacrificial.

Abraham’s so-called tithe was giving ten percent to one king and the other ninety percent to another king. Abraham never tithed on his own income or wealth.

The law of tithing ended at the cross.

Malachi refers to the law; thus, Malachi does not apply to Christians today.

A study of the history of tithing in the Christian Church will show that tithing, as it is taught today, started around 1870, and was taught at a time the church leaders wanted to raise more money.

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